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Everyone seems to be obsessed with protein nowadays but how much do you actually need? Turns out, it's a lot

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what it claims

Past roughly 1.6g/kg/day of protein (~0.7g/lb), training — not extra grams — is what actually drives muscle gain.

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Jeremy Ethier offers a useful ceiling: somewhere around 0.6-0.7g per pound (1.3-1.6g/kg) of bodyweight, you've captured most of protein's contribution to muscle growth, and eating…

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Jeremy Ethier offers a useful ceiling: somewhere around 0.6-0.7g per pound (1.3-1.6g/kg) of bodyweight, you've captured most of protein's contribution to muscle growth, and eating more barely moves the needle further. That number lines up well with the landmark dose-response meta-analysis on the topic (Morton et al., 2018, British Journal of Sports Medicine, 1,863 participants), which places the breakpoint at 1.62g/kg/day — but the citation he actually gives (Nunes et al., 2022, Journal of Cachexia, Sarcopenia and Muscle, PMID 35187864) is a different meta-analysis that doesn't find quite as clean a plateau: it shows a positive effect that keeps going, albeit modestly, past 1.6g/kg, without pinning down a hard ceiling. A more recent, detailed re-analysis of the Morton data (Nuckols, 2024, Stronger by Science) argues the 1.62g/kg 'breakpoint' rests on a fragile statistical method, and that the real ceiling for maximizing muscle gain sits closer to 2.0-2.35g/kg. The core message — training matters far more than the last gram of protein, and most people already eat enough — holds up and does real good by de-dramatizing the protein-counting obsession, but the specific number is a bit conservative and attached to a citation that isn't quite the one that established it. Verdict: mixed.

the sources

  1. 1Morton RW, Murphy KT, McKellar SR, et al. 2018
  2. 2Leidy HJ, Clifton PM, Astrup A, et al. 2015

Claimed by Jeremy Ethier, BKin. Noli grades the claim, never the person.

Decoded by Noli · August 3, 2026 · the original post

What the graded evidence says

Evidence
B+
Effect
fat-free mass gain (resistance training) and appetite/satiety — +0.30 kg fat-free mass with protein supplementation (95% CI 0.09-0.52), plateau at ~1.62 g/kg/day; higher protein meals reliably increase satiety vs equal-calorie lower-protein meals
Measured on
healthy training adults; weight-loss and weight-maintenance adults

What’s uncertain

More protein past roughly 1.6 g/kg/day doesn't add much for muscle or fullness. The satiety edge is real but modest, not a magic appetite switch.

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